Sunday, May 31, 2009

Re-winding Season 5: The Lie



The exchange between Hurley and his mother in this episode is a classic Lost-moment.

HURLEY: We lied, Ma!

CARMEN: What do you mean you lied?

HURLEY: [Voice cracking] All of us--the Oceanic Six, we lied about what happened after the crash.

CARMEN: And what did happen?

HURLEY: Okay. See, we did crash, but it was on this crazy island. And we waited for rescue, and there wasn't any rescue. And there was a smoke monster, and then there were other people on the island. We called them the Others, and they started attacking us. And we found some hatches, and there was a button you had to push every 108 minutes or... well, I was never really clear on that. But... the Others didn't have anything to do with the hatches. That was the DHARMA Initiative. The Others killed them, and now they're trying to kill us. And then we teamed up with the Others because some worse people were coming on a freighter. Desmond's girlfriend's father sent them to kill us. So we stole their helicopter and we flew it to their freighter, but it blew up. And we couldn't go back to the island because it disappeared, so then we crashed into the ocean, and we floated there for a while until a boat came and picked us up. And by then, there were six of us. That part was true. [Whispers] But the re...

[Hurley's voice breaks. He takes a second to regain composure.]

HURLEY: But the rest of the people... who were on the plane? They're still on that island.

[Carmen puts her hand on her son's wrist.]

CARMEN: I believe you. I don't understand you, but I believe you.

HURLEY: A lot of people died, ma. And now this bad stuff is happening because... well, um... [sighs] we shouldn't have lied. [sighs]

It can't be coincidence that many of the classic Lost-moments do seem to involve Hurley, so maybe this is foreshadowing his importance. Jacob sure seemed to treat him as a VIP in the season finale!

We got to meet a young Widmore who turns out to be a ruthless bastard even back then, and we got to see Hawking as well in her pendulum room, making some time for Ben. After killing Locke and finding her, he's been charged with gathering up all the O6. The one reason I can think of him doing her bidding is that it is his only chance to get back to the island. Why does she allow him to help her though? Does she want him back on the island too? To help Jacob's nemesis kill Jacob? Or for some other reason? What exactly is Hawking's allegiance?


  • She is working in a Dharma station... seemingly the very station that helped Dharma's founders to find the island (if we believe her later information).
  • Ben meets up with Jill at the butcher shop who is taking care of Locke's corpse, and everything here hints at that The Others have a lot of people working for them off the island: is that what Hawking is doing? Working for the Others but off-island? Would she be able to do that even though she left the island and seemingly gave up her leadership there?
  • What is her motivation for working so hard to get the O6 back to the island? Is she doing this work for Jacob? For his nemesis? For Daniel somehow?
Hawking seems to really, really want the O6 back on that island.

BEN: I'm having some... difficulties.

SHROUDED WOMAN: Well, you better get busy... [chuckles] because you only have 70 hours.

BEN: No, no, that's not enough time. I need at least--

SHROUDED WOMAN: What you need is irrelevant.

[She turns, revealing her identity.]

MS. HAWKING: 70 hours is what you've got.

BEN: Look, I lost Reyes tonight. What happens if I can't get them all to come back?

MS. HAWKING: Then God help us all.


But if "whatever happened, happened", and nothing can be changed is all true, then why is she so worried? This same question applies to why she was previously so set on convincing Desmond to do what he was supposed to do: not propose to Penny and eventually end up on the island to push the button (and then fail to push it, bringing 815 down).

It seems to me that maybe things CAN be changed, but that Hawking and others (The Others?) believe that change is not a good thing. In Hawking's case she doesn't even want to change her son's fate! Or so it seems... All this has to be part of something larger that will come back to the surface in S6. It just seems that Hawking and Widmore have been manipulating people through various means... kind of like playing pieces. Backgammon anyone?

Screencaps thanks to Lostpedia.

Re-winding Season 5: Because You Left

Interestingly enough, this episode starts pretty much where the season eventually ended, with Faraday and Chang in the Orchid, and my main thoughts in this episode have to do with the Orchid too. At the beginning of the episode we see Pierre Chang there with a dead worker, explaining to the foreman about energy, time travel etc. But at this point, the donkey wheel is still inside the wall, in a chamber they have not yet reached. At other times we've seen both Locke and Ben turn the wheel, so I'm guessing that it was Dharma who dug the wheel out.

  • Does this mean The Others and Alpert didn't know about the wheel? Or had they hidden it?
  • Ben seemed to know exactly what to do to turn the wheel and what it would do, even though it was sealed up when he and Locke headed into the Orchid. Where did he get all that knowledge? From Dharma?
  • In Some Like it Hoth, when we see Miles bring a dead body to The Orchid: wtf were they doing with those dead bodies? Time travel experiments? Chang's purpose with the Orchid seems to have been to explore time travel, so this is what makes the most sense. But how would dead bodies be used? Were they doing something like what we've seen happen on the island: dead people appearing again? Or were they using them in some other way: we did see a polar bear with a dharma collar in Tunisia and it was thousands of years old, buried in the sand! Still haven't had that explained properly to us.
Crazy theory regarding the Orchid: Remember the video with the two bunnies? How freaked out Chang was when they were both there together? The same bunny right there in two "version". This was a result of the experiments at The Orchid. Darlton have said that something similar would explain the Dharma bear in Tunisia that Charlotte found. Does everyone who turns the wheel end up "duplicated" somehow? Would one of them get kicked off the island while the other was "left behind"? Are there now 2 Bens and 2 Lockes? And wth would that mean? Does that play into what happened in the finale?
In this episode we also get to see the very important scene when Alpert helps Locke when he's been shot and also gives him the compass. Of course, we now know that Alpert's message to Locke, that he needs to: leave the island, get those who left to come back and that he has to die to achieve this, was a message not from Richard but from Fake Locke. Mind-twist. From the transcript:

RICHARD: Sorry. The first thing, okay?

[Locke groans.]

RICHARD: You're gonna need to clean out the wound every couple of hours and keep as much weight off the leg as you can, all right? The Island'll do the rest, John, all right?

LOCKE: But I don't--

RICHARD: Second thing--no, no, pay attention. Next time we see each other, I'm not gonna recognize you. All right? You give me this. All right?

[Richard hands Locke something small, something we've seen before.]

LOCKE: What is this?

RICHARD: It's a compass.

LOCKE: What does it do?

RICHARD: It points north, John. Look, I wish I had time to be more sensitive about this because it's a lot to swallow, but you need to know it in order to do what you gotta do. So I'm just gonna say it, okay? [Sighs] The only way to save the Island, John, is to get your people back here--the ones who left.

LOCKE: Jack, Kate... The chopper was headed for the boat. The boat--

RICHARD: No, they're fine, John, and they're already home, so you have to convince them to come back.

LOCKE: How--how am I supposed to do that?

RICHARD: You're gonna have to die, John.

This is what Fake Locke wanted Locke to think. Does that mean it was all a lie? Or could it be that actually both "sides" wanted the O6 back, but for their own reasons? Is this what somehow caused the losties to split up in time when they came back on Ajira 316? Some went where Jacob wanted, some went where the other man wanted them to go?

Also in this episode, we see Daniel go and talk to Desmond while Desmond was still in the hatch. This makes Desmond "remember" the episode in his present, even though he didn't remember it before. Later on, in Jughead, Des goes to Oxford to find Daniel's mom, finds Daniel's abandoned research lab and then asks Widmore where Daniel's mom is: and Widmore tells him where to find her. As we now know, Widmore and Hawking are Daniel's parents. Were Widmore and Hawking working together? Bram told Miles that Widmore was "the wrong side". Which seems to imply that Widmore is NOT working for Jacob at least.

Why did Widmore tell Des about Hawking? Is this all to do with manipulating events so that some desired outcome will occur? Has Widmore always been manipulating Des this way? And what did Daniel mean about Des being "special"?

FARADAY: Yeah... in a way. But listen, that's not important. What is important, Desmond, is what I'm about to say to you. I need you to listen. You're the only person who can help us because, Desmond... the rules... the rules don't apply to you. You're special. You're uniquely and miraculously special.

Does this mean that Desmond can change things while no one else can? And will all the losties who were there when the "incident" happen, now be just as special? I really hope we get to see more of Desmond next season to find out what role his specialness will play.

This episode showed us Sun getting together with Widmore and he pretty much enlisted her to kill Ben. Kind of like Jacob's nemesis enlisted Ben to kill Jacob at the end of the season, though Widmore's "loophole" didn't quite work out since Sun forgot all about killing Ben rather fast. Her storyline this season was pretty much turned into nothing anyway once she got back to the island, except for the great moment when she clonked Ben on the head with an oar of course.


Screencaps thanks to Lostpedia.

Thursday, May 28, 2009

Re-visiting S1, again

Continuing my theme of re-visiting old posts with thoughts about even older seasons, I'm going back to last year's post about S1 mysteries. Do we know anything more about these mysteries after S5?

So here is last year's entry, with new information added:

I always figure that the basic mystery of Lost is: What is the island? Sure, there are other mysteries: Dharma, Widmore, Smokey... but in essence, everything comes back to and is grounded in the nature of the island. There is something about the island that makes Smokey possible, that makes time weirdness possible, that made Dharma build their hatches and start their research and makes Widmore want to find it so badly. And to me, season 1 of the show has to be key when it comes to clues, hints and mysteries that are majorly important to figuring out what the island is all about.

Why? Well, I figure that when the show started, tptb didn't know how long they had to tell their story. Maybe they'd only get one season. So it stands to reason that they'd put enough information into the show's beginning that they could have, somehow, cobbled together some kind of ending. Yes, it would probably have been rushed and unsatisfactory and we'd have missed out on Alpert, Ben and Desmond, Juliet, Miles and Daniel... and that's a whole lot to miss! But anyway, S1 has to have some serious goods in it. Which is why I went back and read up on the eps (watching them all will have to wait a while) to refresh my memory as to what came first.

Smokey
Smokey the "monster" (or whatever it may turn out to be) was introduced right from the start in The Pilot. We saw it chase Kate and Charlie and Jack, we saw it kill 815's pilot and generally make noise and misbehave. Since then we've seen a lot more of it, but I'm guessing it will be S6 before we get any big answers here. S5 additions:
  • We know Smokey can be "summoned" by pulling the plug in Ben's basement.
  • Smokey seems to "judge" people, or at least be able to show them part of their thoughts and past. The ancient Egyptians even built a special chamber where they interacted with Smokey it seems.
  • Smokey seemed to assume Alex' form (a dead person whose body was on the island) to interact more directly with Ben. Similar to what the monster did with Eko and Yemi.

The Black Rock
How did the ship get to be way up on an island mountain side? What happened to the people on it? This also ties in with how Yemi's plane could have reached the island. Do Alpert and/or Richard have a connection to The Black Rock? Does Widmore? S5 additions:
  • We saw Alpert building a ship in a bottle that was similar to the Black Rock.
  • We saw a ship like the Black Rock in the opening scene of the finale with Jacob and his nemesis.

Polar bears
These seem to have gotten their explanation once we saw that the Others had cages for polar bears. But I'm not convinced that totally explains it. Charlotte found a several thousand year old polar bear skeleton in the Tunisian desert wearing a collar with a Dharma symbol. How did that happen? Turning the donkey wheel bumped Ben into the future, not the past. And how did the bears get there anyway? Maybe the island was in a polar region at some point? Season 5 additions: Nada.

Walt's powers
Walt is special, that much the show seems to have confirmed early on, but we've never really gotten an explanation as to what he's capable of doing. The Others interest in him was not just because they can't procreate and therefore would need children, as was shown in the mobisodes, they were doing something to him and what he did in turn freaked them out. We've seen birds fly into windows a lot when Walt is upset. And later there's his whole turning-up-soaking-wet-and-talking-backwards-to-people schtick. And even more recently turning up all grown up to tell Locke to get a move on. Clearly, Walt can appear in places where he is not physically present. Clearly he can affect his environment somehow. Hopefully he'll be back in the cast for next season so we can find out what the heck is really going on there. Season 5 additions:
  • Not much.
  • Locke talked to Walt off-island and it seems Walt is still having visions or something. He saw Locke surrounded by people who wanted to hurt him. Premonition of UnLocke's fate after Jacob was killed? Perhaps. I really hope Walt comes back somehow next season.

Vincent
After seeing the mobisode "So It Begins", I'm convinced that Vincent may actually feature a lot more in the last two seasons of the show. If he was "communicating" with Christian every time Walt and Michael were looking for him, then what were they communicating about? I want a Vincent flashback ep that shows us everything he's been up to when he was off in the jungle! Season 5 additions:
  • Nothing much. Except that Vincent is alive and hanging out with Rose and Bernard.
Dead man walking
Very early on we saw that dead people can be seen by the living on the island. Christian showed himself to Jack in "White Rabbit", seemingly to guide him to water and the caves. Just like we later saw with Yemi, his body disappears but he sure doesn't. Is he a manifestation of Smokey? A zombie? The island somehow projecting itself? The theme of dead people being able to interact with the living and communicating with them seems to run throughout the show and the addition of Miles to the mix this past season makes me think we might finally start to find out what that's all about. Season 5 additions:
  • We saw Christian talking to Sun and Lapidus and even adjusting a picture on a wall: very corporeal.
  • We saw Christian talking to Locke after he'd fallen down the Donkey Wheel well and in that case, Christian made a point of NOT touching Locke. Was Christian actually Jacob in that particular scene? And did he choose not to touch Locke because he had already touched him, after his fall in the past off the island? Since Jacob's touch seems important, perhaps a second touch does something other than a first touch? Jacob's first touch when it came to Locke seems to have brought him back to life.
  • Are there two Christians? One Jacob-related and one Nemesis-related? And what significance does it have that Jack put his shoes on Christian's dead body, and then put Christian's shoes on Locke's dead body when both of those people seemed dead, but are now walking the island?

Adam and Eve
Jack and Kate find the two skeletons at the caves. On the bodies is a pouch with one white and one black stone. According to tptb, once we find out who Adam and Eve are, we'll know that they knew where the story was going right from the start. Some people say that Adam and Eve will turn out to be Desmond and Penny. However, I find it more likely that they are two people we knew from S1. Jack and Kate? My own favourites are Rose and Bernard. Season 5 additions:
  • It seems increasingly likely that it is Rose and Bernard, though the specifics of how their bodies end up in the caves are not clear. And what about the stones??? No idea there.

Healing
The island heals Rose's cancer and fixes Locke's legs. The island's "energy" may be responsible in some fashion, but then how come Ben gets a tumor and Jack gets appendicitis? Because the island is "displeased" with them? Just like when it won't let them die, but, you know, the opposite? Is it the island actually, actively healing them (as in: it's acting like a person), or is it more that it's properties and fate and destiny and time somehow make these things happen "naturally"? Ben tells Juliet that Jacob cured her sister's cancer. Is Jacob somehow able of making people sick and healthy? Is he the island? Ugh. Just another one of the mysteries that seems like you have part of it figured out but when you think about it some more, you really don't know anything... Season 5 additions:
  • We do know a lot more about Jacob. He did seem to heal or even resurrect John Locke.
  • Richard Alpert said he is the way he is because of Jacob (eternal life? or what?).

Whispers
I already wrote about them. Some of them may be the Hostiles/Others communicating but a lot of them have to be something more. Dead people still able to make themselves heard? That's what I'm starting to think after S4 and seeing Miles in action. Season 5 additions:
  • Ben warned Danielle Rousseau to stay away from the whispers if she heard them. Does this mean the whispers are "just" the Other's way of communicating somehow? Or maybe related to Smokey? Not sure.

The vaccine
What the heck was the vaccine all about? Ethan was injecting Claire with something. Much later we saw Claire get sick and bleed, and this was somehow triggered on Ben's orders. So was it a vaccine or just part of that ruse? Charlie worked really hard to get Aaron and Claire vaccine in one episode and we know Desmond used it too... We've never gotten a satisfactory explanation about the vaccine and what it actually was supposed to do. Season 5 additions:
  • Nothing.
  • At all.

Aaron
Claire's psychic told her that her child should not be raised by another/an other. Then said she should give the baby up for adoption in America, basically putting her on flight 815. And in "Raised By Another", Claire has a very weird and possibly prophetic dream about Aaron:
Claire wakes up in the night. A baby's cry is heard. Claire sits up with a confused and concerned expression on her face; she looks down and feels her stomach, noticing that she is not pregnant. She hears a baby cry again and starts off into the jungle in a daze, apparently looking for the source of the crying. Claire sees a light in the jungle and walks toward it, where she encounters Locke sitting at the table at which she received her psychic reading (in her flashback later in this episode); the psychic's electric lamp is also present. As she approaches, Locke is drawing what appear to be the psychic's cards from a deck one by one as he stares down at the table (the first one making the sound of a metal against metal, like a knife being unsheathed); they exchange a few brief words:

CLAIRE: What's happening?
LOCKE: You know what's happening.
CLAIRE: But I don't understand. Why --?
LOCKE: He was your responsibility but you gave him away, Claire. Everyone pays the price now.

As Locke finishes saying this, he looks up at her with a creepy expression on his face and has one black eye and one white eye.
Yep. Something is up with Aaron. Not sure what yet. I guess he has to go back to the island in S5, but I really wonder how they'll make that happen. I just don't see Kate taking a little kid back there. Season 5 additions:
  • Aaron is with grandma.
  • Kate went back to the island to try to find Claire and reunite her with Aaron.
  • That's it.

The numbers
I don't think these will ever be totally explained. The possibly canon explanation of The Valenzetti Equation is probably as much as we'll ever get. Season 5 additions:
  • We heard the numbers spoken as Ajira Airways went down.
  • We saw the number being entered on the hatch door. Hugo didn't like that.
  • Other than that, nothing.

Conclusion
My conclusion is that we really don't know a hell of a lot more about the island than we did in S1. Yes, we know more about what's been going on there, but no real answers about what it really is and why it's so special. Lots of hints (Daniel talking about light refracting oddly, donkey wheels, Dharma, hatches) but nothing concrete that actually explains what it is and how it does what it does. I guess this is because the actual nature of the island is the key to all of Lost, and we won't find out until the very end. Hopefully we will find out then at least! Season 5 additions: Darlton have stated that they won't necessarily explain everything about the island, to avoid a "midichlorian" debacle. I applaud that. I do however hope we get some kind of explanation for the Donkey Wheel, Smokey and Jacob as well as all the rampant Egyptianess. Sometime soon. You know, like next season.

All screencaps thanks to Lostpedia.

Sunday, May 24, 2009

Jacob as the constant?

Today's new theory:

I'm starting to think that we will have a Desmond-like situation for all the 1977 losties when S6 rolls around. Their minds will flash into their pasts (after the crash on the island perhaps) and maybe they will be able to change/understand things in a different way then they did the first time around. Since they are at the source of what threw Des "out of time" when the Incident happens, they may experience the same thing he did when the hatch blew up. And that would also mean that Desmond's experience was a kind of set up for what is to come now. Could it be that Jacob made himself their constant by touching them all? So that the time travel they will now experience a la Des will not kill them by nosebleeding them to death?

And then their bodies and "whole selves" will somehow end up with the "now" timeline. One last time-skip after their minds have traveled back to the past? So that they arrive in our now with more info than previously? Will they also be able to tell the future like Des could? I do think that somehow what happened to Des will be what happens to them, if slightly different in some respect.

This would make Desmond's entire "Flashes before your eyes" storyline hang together with the overall storyline of the show in a much better way than it currently does.

Saturday, May 23, 2009

Old questions - answered?


Way back in June last year, I posted a bunch of unanswered questions about Lost. Last night I was reading through that list again, and thought it was interesting enough to re-visit.

42 Unanswered Questions, revisited and even answered


  1. What is the Smoke Monster? - Well now. We don't know what it is yet, but we know the temple seems to be it's "lair" and we know it can be summoned by pulling that plug in Ben's basement, and that the Egyptians made offerings to it at some point in time. Or knelt down to be judged by it. Or something. It's old anyway.
  2. Why can't women who conceive on the island carry the baby to term? - No idea. Is it because the statue is/was Taweret the fertility hippo and when it was damaged the problems started? Or is it because there was a nuclear incident and that's screwing things up? All speculation.
  3. How come the island is so hard to find? - Because it's always moving, as Mrs Hawking told us in "316".

    ELOISE: [Sighs] All right. I apologize if this is confusing, but... [To Jack, who is still staring at the photo] Let's pay attention, yes? The room we're standing in was constructed years ago over a unique pocket of electromagnetic energy. That energy connects to similar pockets all over the world. The people who built this room, however, were only interested in one.

    SUN: The Island.

    ELOISE: Yes. The island. They'd gathered proof that it existed. They knew it was out there somewhere, but they just couldn't find it. Then a very clever fellow built this pendulum on the theoretical notion that they should stop looking for where the island was supposed to be and start looking for where it was going to be.

    [Pendulum whooshes]

    JACK: What do you mean, "Where it was going to be"?

    ELOISE: Well, this fellow presumed, and correctly, as it turned out, that the Island was always moving. Why do you think you were never rescued? Now while the movements of the Island seem random, this man and his team created a series of equations which tell us, with a high degree of probability, where it is going to be at a certain point... in time. Windows, as it were, that while open, provide a route back. Unfortunately, these windows don't stay open for very long. Yours closes... in 36 hours. [She hands the binder to Jack]

    Exactly why it keeps moving we still don't know.
  4. Why was it impossible for Desmond to sail off the island but seemingly so easy for the freighter to find its way there? - Presumably the freighter knew where the window was. Just like flight 316. So did they use the pendulum and Eloise too? Don't know that yet.
  5. What is Widmore's deal with the island? - Answered! He used to be leader and then Ben/the Others kicked him out for having a child off the island and being a bonehead. Or something.
  6. Is Daniel Faraday time-traveling somehow? - Well, he did this season. And he had used himself in his time travel experiments at Oxford.
  7. How did the polar bear end up in Tunisia? - Not sure. But it probably has to do with the donkey wheel.
  8. How come Richard Alpert doesn't seem to age? - Because of Jacob. Not sure what that means. It's kind of like the answer "42" in Hitchhiker's Guide. It's an answer, yet doesn't tell you much!
  9. How exactly does "the island" prevent people from dying a la Michael? - Hmmm. Does Jacob do it? Fate? Not sure.
  10. How did the Others get Juliet to the island? The submarine? Seems a long ride from Portland. - Sub. I think. Still not sure about the specifics of submarine travel to the island though!
  11. Who is Abbadon? - He's dead. He worked for Widmore. His job was to get people where they were supposed to go. Yay
  12. Who is Jacob? - He doesn't age. He touched the losties in their past. And he's dead too. Or maybe not. And we still don't really know who or what he is. But at least we know he exists! Or at least existed...
  13. How come Jacob's cabin is seemingly hard to find? - No idea. And now we're not even sure it was Jacob's.
  14. What are Walt's special powers and why did the Others say they got "more than they bargained for" with him? - Will we ever know?
  15. Who are Adam and Eve? - No idea. But I'm betting it is/will be Rose and Bernard.
  16. What is the Temple? A real temple or a hatch or what? - The outskirts of it seem very temple-like. And some Others live there.
  17. How did Yemi's plane get to the island? - No idea. Through a window in time/space?
  18. How did the Black Rock get to the island? - Sailed there. Brought there by Jacob. I think. If it was the ship we saw in The Incident anyway. Still not sure how it ended up on top of the island...
  19. Is Dr Marvin Candle (or whatever his real name is) still alive? - He was in the 70s! Probably not anymore though...
  20. Who/what made the food drop we saw in "Lockdown"? - No idea.
  21. What was the sickness that killed Danielle's crew? Same as what happened to the people on the freighter? Then why didn't Danielle get it? - Answered! They got pulled into the ground/temple by Smokey and came out looking the same yet all killing-crazy and very island-knowledgeable suddenly...
  22. Why was Juliet branded? What purpose did that serve? Just to make Jack pity her? - Because she was banished I guess. Though we never saw this matter brought up again.
  23. How exactly does the island make people sick when it seemingly cures some? IE how come Ben and Jack got sick? - No idea. Jacob seemingly has healing powers though... and maybe the electromagnetic energy plays a part.
  24. What is the story with the four toed statue? - Well. Jacob lives in the foot. Lived I mean. And it was Taweret. So say we all. Even though it still looks like a croc to me!
  25. What is the meaning of the whispers? - No idea.
  26. What happened to Claire? - No idea.
  27. How can Miles talk to dead people? - He just can. And has been able to since he was a little kid.
  28. Who built the donkey wheel under the Orchid? - No idea. It was there when Dharma investigated anyway.
  29. What was the vaccine for that Desmond kept injecting himself with? Did it really help protect him from something or was it just a ruse of some kind? - No idea.
  30. What happened to Kelvin's body? - Taken by Smokey? By Jacob's nemesis? No idea.
  31. How come Dharma people seemed to be present at both Locke's and Ben's births? (Alpert in Locke's case and Goodspeed in Ben's.) - Hmmm. Well, not sure abour Horace. But Alpert was at Locke's birthplace because Locke had told him to be there while time-traveling.
  32. What happened to Annie?- No idea.
  33. Was Charlotte born on the island? - YES!
  34. What's the origin of Alpert's people, aka The Hostiles? - People brought by Jacob and their decendents?
  35. How and why did Walt appear on the island, both to Shannon and Locke? - No idea.
  36. Why did the monster kill Eko? (Other than the fact that the actor wanted off the show...) - Because it felt like it and he wasn't sorry like Ben was? Maybe.
  37. What was behind Charlie's weird visions of Aaron in danger from "Fire + Water"? - No idea.
  38. What happened to Christian and Yemi's bodies? - No idea.
  39. Was the psychic who sent Claire off on the 815 flight a real psychic or a fraud? - No idea.
  40. What did Ben do to call up the Smoke Monster? - Pulled the plug in his basement.
  41. Who is Ms Hawking who turned up in Desmond's time-travel flashbacks? - Answered! She is Daniel's mom. Ex-leader of the Others. And one tough cookie with a lot of knowledge about a lot of stuff.
  42. What's up with the Hurley Bird? - No frikking idea.
Lots of answers! But a lot of them are answers that just lead to more questions. Oh well. Maybe next season all of them will be answered. Even the Walt stuff? Even the Charlie stuff? Perhaps. Hope springs eternal.

Screencaps thanks to lostpedia, lost-media and lost.cubit.net.

Thursday, May 21, 2009

My prediction!

So yes, I'm obsessed with Lost. Why do you ask? Sure, it will fade a bit before the last season starts up, only to flare up again when it does.


Anyway. I was thinking about this past season and that tptb probably put in a lot of stuff that will have payoffs somehow next season. One scene I remembered that we have yet to see explained, was from The Little Prince when the time-skipping Losties on the island flashed to a point in time where they found the outrigger canoes at their old beach camp. And an Ajira bottle... Yep, that's right: they were in the same time as FakeLocke and Ilana et al at the end of the season! And they got shot at when they took one of the canoes. Who shot at them? We still haven't found out. Which is weird really, since we've seen the interconnections of other moments in time-skipping time already.

What I wonder is this: what if they're shot at by themselves? What if the Losties in 1977 flash to 2007/present day storywise. And what if they're still at the same place. And what if they run from there to the beach and get a canoe. And for some reason I don't know yet, they fire at the people they see in another canoe?

I could be wrong. Hey, with Lost I'm wrong a lot. But whoever it is that fired/fires on them, I do think it is a big reveal. It will either be themselves or some new group perhaps that we haven't seen yet.

Interesting point about that outrigger chase: at that point, there were three Locke's on the island. Dead Locke, Fake Locke and Time-skipping Locke. And they all existed in a time frame when Fake Locke was intent on going to see Jacob, or had already managed to get him killed.

Screencaps thanks to lost-media.

Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Tapestry update!

Thanks so much to poster Tarquinius over at DarkUfo, who has now read the last line of text on the tapestry.
Hey, our guess was not wrong after all.

It goes: μόνοι τὸ τοῦ πολέμου τέλος ἑωράκασι '...only they have seen the end of the war'. There

By the way: this quote is not from Plato. It is a translation into Ancient Greek.
Poster Calliope at The Fuselage pointed out previously that the quote may be from George Santayana and is often wrongly attributed to Plato. I looked up Santayana, and there are some interesting things mentioned on his wiki page:

O world, thou choosest not the better part!
It is not wisdom to be only wise,
And on the inward vision close the eyes,
But it is wisdom to believe the heart.
Columbus found a world, and had no chart,
Save one that faith deciphered in the skies;
To trust the soul’s invincible surmise
Was all his science and his only art.


And intriguingly in the context of the tapestry:
Happiness is the only sanction of life; where happiness fails, existence remains a mad and lamentable experiment.

That life is worth living is the most necessary of assumptions and, were it not assumed, the most impossible of conclusions.

Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.


Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
I'm so glad there are people who know how to read Ancient Greek!

Tuesday, May 19, 2009

More pics of the tapestry

There are several more screencaps of the tapestry available now. They're part of the promo pics for the finale.

That last line of Greek text should be readable now!


Screencaps from ABC.com, thanks to lost-media.

Ripped tapestry


Great job by poster dylan_1200 at The Fuselage, photoshopping the tapestry and the piece from the cabin together.

It's definitely a match. Now we just need to find out who ripped it or cut it off the tapestry and who left it in the cabin!

Image thanks to dylan_1200.

Monday, May 18, 2009

Lost Latin


It's interesting that while the question Ilana's group was asking (What lies in the shadow of the statue?) was posed in English, the reply from Richard was in Latin. We've already seen it mentioned on the show that The Others speak Latin: at least when they don't want outsiders to understand what they're saying. Like when young psycho Widmore and his flunky ran into the time-skipping losties. Juliet knew right away that they were Others just because of the Latin. I wonder if the question was supposed to be, or once was, in Latin too?

The use of Latin by The Others is interesting. From Wikipedia:
After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, Latin survived as the lingua franca of educated classes in the West, and this survival was reinforced by the adoption of Latin by the Catholic Church. In this milieu, it survived as a mother tongue at least into the second millennium A.D. and is referred to as Medieval Latin. The Renaissance briefly reinforced the position of Latin as a spoken language, through its adoption by the Renaissance Humanists. After the 16th century, the popularity of Medieval Latin began to decline. Few people still speak it in the present day.
So it could be assumed that The Others as we know them on the show came into being sometime between the fall of the Roman empire and say, 18th century.

On a more personal and shallow note, I am definitely hoping for more Latin spoken by Alpert. That man knows how to make even the smallest phrase sound... pleasing.

Screencaps thanks to lost-media.

Saturday, May 16, 2009

The tapestry


The tapestry from the finale is so gorgeous that I will make another post about it. Some interesting tidbits from Lostpedia:

His tapestry depicts a pair of wings outstretched from an encircled Eye of Horus, and what appear to be seventeen long arms emanating like rays out from the eye. The hands at the ends of the arms grope for human figures who appear to be at the mercy of the hands, while on either side a king sits in a throne and observes.

Across the top of the tapestry is emblazoned a quote from Homer's Odyssey in upper case ancient Greek: ΘΕΟΙ ΤΟΣΑ ΔΟΙΕΝ ΟΣΑ ΦΡΕΣΙ ΣΗΣΙ ΜΕΝΟΙΝΑΣ. The original sentence, modified to lower case, is σοὶ δὲ θεοὶ τόσα δοῖεν ὅσα φρεσὶ σῇσι μενοινᾷς (transcribed as theoi tosa doien hosa phresi sêisi menoinais), belongs to Book 6, line 180 and means, "may the gods grant thee all that thy heart desires". [1]

Another passage is woven into the middle of the tapestry. It can be only partly seen, but the passage in full reads, ΘΕΟΙ ΔΕ ΤΟΙ ΟΛΒΙΑ ΔΟΙΕΝ. The original sentence, modified to lowercase, is θεοὶ δέ τοι ὄλβια δοῖεν (transcribed as theoi de toi olbia doien), which means, "may the gods grant thee happiness". It occurs twice in the Odyssey: Book 8, line 413 and Book 24, line 402. [2] [3]

The tapestry also depicts numerous other figures laboring to harvest wheat, and Ancient Egyptian sailboats along the bottom.


And this trivia note is really interesting: the writers sure do weave little details in!
The first line is similar to the start of Psalm 20:4, "May He grant you your heart's desire...", and Psalm 20:1 starts out "May the Lord answer you in the day of trouble! May the name of the God of Jacob protect you!"

Jacob's loom...

This tapestry is surely one of the most beautiful props ever seen on Lost. I really hope it becomes available as a poster!

Screencaps thanks to darkufo and lost-media.

Wild theory about Ben



Several posters at the Fuselage have mentioned that in the Bible, Jacob has a son called Benjamin. Could that be the relationship between the show's Benjamin Linus and Jacob? Sounds nuts, but it made me think of something that has always bugged me about The Others. When Locke was going to become leader, he had to kill his dad first. They even brought his dad all the way from the mainland to the island so he could do it. So, it seems that to become leader of The Others you first have to kill your father: horrific right?

We saw Ben kill Roger in the Purge. But it's intriguing to speculate: what if Roger wasn't his dad? What if Jacob was his father? What if this is Jacob's loophole: he is killed but at the same time Ben becomes the true leader of the Others because he has now, finally, killed his real father? Maybe this has something to do with Ben being saved by Alpert/The Others when he was a child: whatever happened then may mean that even if Jacob wasn't his biological father, he is his "real" father somehow?

Ben never got to see Jacob before, because he hadn't fulfilled the requirements of leadership. It would make the scene with Jacob at the end of the finale really poignant in a way: Ben meets his father for the first time and kills him.

Not sure I even want this theory to be true, but I can't help thinking about it. The requirement to kill your father always seemed so harsh and barbaric to me. And whether Jacob is Ben's father, the scene when Ben kills them was in many ways a patricide regardless: Ben had followed this "invisible father" for so long, and their confrontation was in many ways like a confrontation between a father and son.

Screencaps thanks to getlostpodcast.

The Incident of My Blown Mind


So I'm still totally blown away by Lost's season finale. The implications and hints and revelations and questions are crowding my brain in a way that makes it almost impossible for me to do anything I'm supposed to do!

Some thoughts rushing through my brain:

Good catch by a poster at The Fuselage: the piece of cloth Ilana found in the cabin had been torn off from the tapestry Jacob had made and that was hanging on the wall inside the statue. Who put it there? And was the cabin Jacob's or not? Was the ash to keep him in, or someone else in, or was it to protect it from something entering it?

Btw, that tapestry is gorgeous. I want it for my very own. Can I put in an order with Jacob I wonder?

Maybe Ilana was looking for Alpert at the cabin? Though why she would, I don't know since I don't think he ever lived there. However, once her party got to the statue, it's him she asks for quite specifically and without hesitation, not Jacob (though maybe she knows it's bad form to do so, and that you have to go through Alpert to get in to see Jacob?).

Why did Jacob seemingly accept his fate so readily? His "What about you" (a wonderful scene and so intense at fraught with emotion and meaning that I can't get it out of my head) to Ben did not try to placate or soothe at all. Is this an Aslan-moment followed by resurrection? A Judas-moment of betrayal for Ben? Certainly Fake Locke looked less than pleased to hear that "they are coming".


How has Jacob been leaving the island? Physically traveling off it or transporting himself off it in another way?

Is the NotJacob man Smokey? Or at least tied to him. Is he able to only take the shape of people who are dead and whose bodies are on the island? When Ben met Alpert for the very first time, they have an interesting convo about Ben's vision:

BEN: Mom..? Mom? Mom! Mom! Mom!
[Ben hears the whispers, and then turns to see a long-haired Richard Alpert standing behind him]
RICHARD: Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Whoa. Whoa, hey, hey, whoa, I didn't mean to scare you. Wait, wait! Are you lost? Wait!
BEN: Are you one of them?
RICHARD: One of whom?
BEN: A hostile.
RICHARD: Do you even know what that word means? What's your name?
BEN: Ben.
RICHARD: Ben? So you wanna tell me what you're doing in the middle of the jungle all by yourself?
BEN: I left home, and...I'm looking for my Mom.
RICHARD: You think she's out here?
BEN: You wouldn't believe me.
RICHARD: Try me.
BEN: She's dead.
RICHARD: Did she die here, on the Island?
BEN: No. When I was a baby.
RICHARD: Did you see her, out here, Ben, in the jungle?
BEN: She talked to me.
RICHARD: What did she say?
BEN: That I couldn't come with her. She said it wasn't time yet.
RICHARD: You should go home now, your people will be looking for you.
BEN: I don't want to go back there! I hate it there! Take me with you.
RICHARD: Maybe that can happen, maybe. But if that's what you really want, Ben, if that's what you want, I want you to really think about that. And you're gonna have to be very, very patient.
If Smokey/Esau can only take the shape of people who died on the island (and/or if their bodies are there), then Alpert is basically asking this to find out if Ben is really having visions of dead people (sent by Jacob?) or if he's being lured by Smokey. Seems Ben's was the real deal at this point.

Could it be that Jacob also uses the shapes of dead people to contact people? His convo with Hurley in The Incident seems to hint at that. Maybe Hurley's visions are "true" visions also: maybe they are even communications from Jacob? Jacob does call his ability a "blessing"...

Anyway, Ben seems to have had true visions as a child. Was his murder of Jacob a necessary act, something Jacob knew was coming and did not try to stop? Kind of like Judas and Jesus? Or has Ben been manipulated by Esau into betraying Jacob? Or has Ben maybe unwittingly (or not) been serving Esau's side all along? He did kill Locke, and that was something Esau/Smokey wanted.

I still think there might be more to Ben, just as I think there might be more to dead Locke.

In some ways, Ben's situation right now is the same situation Locke found himself in when he lost faith in the hatch. First Locke spent all that time believing it was the right thing to do to push the button. Then, after Ben lied and told him the button didn't do anything, Locke started to lose faith in it and ended up causing the whole exploding hatch debacle.

This time, because of FakeLocke's manipulations, Ben loses faith in the one thing he had believed in blindly, even though he'd never seen him: Jacob. And Ben ends up killing him.

Ben is a liar, but he didn't lie about serving Jacob all those years. And I don't think he lied to The Others about seeing Jacob: that lie was for Locke only. Alpert obviously knew that Ben couldn't see Jacob and didn't even know where he was. It's interesting to go back and read the transcript of The Man Behind the Curtain, considering what we know now.

And what about Jack's dad? Are there two manifestations of him as has been long speculated, set apart by their shoes? One "good" wearing the white tennis shoes, and one "sinister" version wearing dark shoes. And then we also have Dead Locke wearing Jack's dad's shoes. Weirdness!

I loved the scene with Ilana and Alpert at the statue.
The relief on her face when he said the right words, and the surprise? worry? on Alpert's face as though he was retrieving a long-gone memory, a memory of something he learned long ago and had almost forgotten... wow. It was powerful. Ricardus is still a major player and I hope we get to see WAY more of him next season. His line that "I am the way I am because of Jacob" was another gem.
I really got the feeling Alpert had a VERY bad feeling about the whole thing with Locke and Ben going in to see Jacob. His comment to Sun about wishing he had some booze was telling. He was severely rattled. Was he rattled because he knew that something bad or at least tragic was going down inside the statue? Or was he starting to suspect that he had been played by FakeLocke?

By the looks of things,NotJacob did pull a very elaborate con on Richard, Ben and Real Locke to maneuver them all into the position of "betraying" Jacob. But is that what actually happened? Jacob seems to have been aware that something was up: asking Ilana for help, resurrecting Locke (if that's what happened) after his fall, and maybe maybe also healing Ben once upon a time when he was a child. Does Ben remember what happened when he was healed I wonder?

So many things to think about. And the statue: is it Sobek or Taweret or something else or just an invention for the show? At this point, I think it's Sobek or a variation of him. How come Jacob's enemy didn't seem to know where Jacob was btw? Was that just part of the ruse? After all, at the very start of the show, Jacob told the other man that when he found his loophole, he (Jacob) would be right there. And where were they: yes, at the statue.


That opening conversation between the two of them was short but so heavy with meaning. "They come, they kill, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same." "It only ends once. Everything that comes before that is progress." (With excuses for it not being word for word exactly what they said. Still waiting for Lostpedia's transcript.) I really hope both actors are back next season because they were both spectacular. I also got a heavy brother-vibe from them. Enemies tied together very close somehow.

I think for me, this was Lost's best ep ever. Especially if I could erase all the Kate and triangle/quadrangle nonsense.

Can't wait to see what Hurley's role is next season and what the heck is in the guitar case! Talk about a MacGuffin!

Screencaps thanks to lost-media, lostpedia and DarkUfo.

Thursday, May 14, 2009

It's Taweret

According to the recap at ABC.com, the statue is Taweret.

Amazing that it can still look so much like a male body with a croc head. LOL.

Odyssey and Lost

Very cool stuff:
It's from Audibly Lost:
The line, translated as "May heaven grant you in all things your heart's desire," is part of what Odysseus says to Nausicaa as he is thanking her for clothing and food.

"And now, O queen, have pity upon me, for you are the first person I have met, and I know no one else in this country. Show me the way to your town, and let me have anything that you may have brought here to wrap your clothes in. May heaven grant you in all things your heart's desire - husband, house, and a happy, peaceful home; for there is nothing better in this world than that man and wife should be of one mind in a house. It discomfits their enemies, makes the hearts of their friends glad, and they themselves know more about it than any one."


Black and White

Locke's statement from S1, when he talked about backgammon with Walt now seem to pretty much explain the basics of the show: two sides, one black and one white.
LOCKE: Backgammon is the oldest game in the world. Archeologists found sets when they excavated the ruins of ancient Mesopotamia. Five thousand years old. That's older than Jesus Christ.

WALT: Did they have dice and stuff?

LOCKE: [nods] Mhhm. But theirs weren't made of plastic. Their dice were made of bones.

WALT: Cool.

LOCKE: Two players. Two sides. One is light … one is dark. Walt, do you want to know a secret?

It's interesting to me that S1 Locke was more like Fake Locke than the Locke we've seen before the island, or in his later days on the island. Was he always under Bad Guy's spell? Even though Jacob touched him/resurrected him?

How long have Jacob and Bad Guy been around? Since Egyptian times? Longer? Are they Jacob and Esau like some people speculate at The Fuselage?

Brain. Melting.

Remember how Walt told Locke he'd seen him in a vision with people wanting to hurt him? Did we see that yet? Or is that coming up in S6? So did Walt then see Fake Locke in his vision?

How ironic is it that it now seems that Ben was one of the "good guys"? He was working for Jacob all that time. He was carrying out his will. He had faith in Jacob. Only to be tricked by the Fake Locke into killing Jacob at the end. Except, maybe, Jacob knew that would happen? Was the "What about you?" moment a Judas-moment? Jacob knew Ben would kill him and that was why he had asked Ilana to help him. Something more is going on here than "just" Ben and Locke being used as dupes by Jacob's nemesis.

The Incident Blew My Mind

OMFG.

What an episode. That's almost all I can say tonight. That and: DIE KATE DIE! Jack won't ask her for a date but will blow up the island to get her to forget she hates him? Ummm... yea...

Other than that this was frikking awesomeness!!! So much just ... wow... I can barely speak because the show completely blew my mind last night.

The opening scene was classic Lost. They gave us Jacob, just like that: here he is! this is what he looks like! and he's like totally old! BUT at the same time they give us Frenemy Black Shirt and we don't know his name and we have no f-ing idea who he is or what his agenda is, except that it seems he doesn't want people coming to the island.

Was the loophole the Frenemy had looked for, was that Ben? Unhappy, neglected Ben who had never been allowed to see Jacob? Did "all the stuff he went through" to kill Jacob have to do with "creating" this Ben: this unhappy, manipulating liar who lost his daughter? Well that and convincing people that Locke should be leader but then taking Locke's place by getting him to die and be shipped to the island? And then getting Ben to kill Locke and listen to him and take his orders? Did Smokey Alex/Monster know that Locke was not really Locke when it told Ben to listen to him and obey? Because either the monster is on Jacob's side and was fooled, or the monster is on Frenemy's side and always has been...

I wonder if Frenemy can leave the island? Maybe he can't. And how does Jacob leave the island anyway?

And Richard knew Ilana's password! And she was "recruited" by Jacob! So it would seem she works for Jacob in some capacity. Who was she looking for in the cabin surrounded by ash? Frenemy? Because Jacob didn't live in the cabin, so maybe whoever Hurley and Locke saw there was the Frenemy? Did the ash keep him trapped and then someone let him out? Christian maybe? But then Christian is probably the Frenemy, because I don't know how he could be Jacob...

And I think Hurley is going to play a huge role. Jacob recruited him too: and left the guitar case. Whatever is in there was from Jacob imo.

The whole "I blow everything up for Kate" stuff was so f-ing lame and stupid and WEAK that I will try to wipe it from my mind. The rest of the ep was brilliant, but that was DUMB! So dumb I wanted to slap people. And the Radzinsky character was like some B-movie villain of dumbness too.

However: Richard. Oh my. His hotness in this episode was astounding. I swear the man is ageless sex on a stick. "I am the way I am because of Jacob". I want my Alpert flashback dammit!

Did anyone else thing Locke was dead when he fell out the window and that Jacob brought him back to life?

The ep absolutely rocked, apart from the Kate crap and Juliet dying. But I kind of knew that was coming.

More when my brain cools.

Wednesday, May 06, 2009

Follow the leader: entering WTF territory


Alpert making a Black Rock in a bottle. How cool was that? But...

Kill Jacob? WTF? Add to that the fact that New Locke is the person who told Alpert to tell Old Locke to a) get off the island, b) get everyone back and c) he'd have to die. Wha? What the hell does that mean?

I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there has been a feud between two factions on the island for a looooong time and one side is headed by Jacob. The other side has tried to get rid of Jacob for a loooong time, but has not been able to find him, for whatever reason. (Whatever it is that's possessing or informing New Locke, it doesn't know where Jacob is.) Now that side has managed to "take over" Locke and since he's leader of the Others, that side now has a chance to find Jacob and take him out. As to who is good and who is evil, I've got no idea at this point.

Interesting that Locke thinks Ben was never able to see or hear Jacob. That's what I've always suspected myself, and Ben didn't deny it. Was Ben faking his connection to Jacob all this time? I think he might have been.

If Locke wants to kill Jacob, then that would mean that the Smoke Monster also wants Jacob dead, since Smokey told Ben to do whatever Locke told him to. So is Smokey involved with the other side? I have no clue. I feel totally mindblown at the moment, but as long as there's Alpert, I'm alright.

Btw, how weak is Sun? All she does is spout off about Jin and show pictures. At the beginning of the season she seemed to be all kick-ass, but now she's more wimpy than ever before.

Btw, the pic above here and the conversation it shows, seems to indicate that Eloise is pregnant: with Daniel? I'd say he'd have to be older, but tptb seem to have the age thing totally mixed up: Charlotte is older than Daniel? Eh...

Funniest scene: Chang interrogating Hurley! LOL. As for the Sawyer/Kate/Juliet stuff... less said the better. Though I do think Phil better watch his back if Sawyer does come back to the island. And Jack's exchange with Kate: "Enough of it was." HA! Burn Kate, BURN!

This show's nuts. Totally frakking nuts now. But with Sayid and Alpert to look at, I think I can handle it.

Screencaps thanks to getlostpodcast.com.

Sunday, May 03, 2009

The Hunt For Gollum: World Premiere!


It's out and I've seen it, including the behind the scenes segment. What an amazing accomplishment! This movie looks so good, it's impossible to imagine that it was made for a nothing-budget of 3000 British pounds. See it. That's all I can say. See. it.

Click here.

Congratulations to my friend Julianne who worked so hard and so long on this project. I hope this brings you and the rest of the crew many great opportunities!

Saturday, May 02, 2009

More thoughts on The Variable


The more I think about The Variable, the more I think it is one of the most crucial episodes of Lost this season, maybe ever. I've seen a lot of disappointment around the Lost-verse that the ep didn't deliver, that it didn't have more Desmond or what not, and I kind of understand it a little bit. Mainly I think the episode failed to knock it out of the park because the acting was a little iffy at times: Daniel Faraday crying was not a good thing as acting goes. And Daniel Faraday the grownup on the swings with Charlotte the child was kind of icky, at least to me. I knew they'd show us that scene eventually, but it played out very awkwardly imo.

Still, The Variable has stuck in my mind like few episodes have. It hinted at so many big, nay HUGE, things: game-changing things even. And it also managed to finally humanize the odd character of Mrs Hawking. Up until now I've felt that she's been an odd duck. She kind of worked as Desmond's mysterious time-oracle, but when we saw her in LA with the pendulum, she just seemed... weird. Too school-marmish, too heavy on the hair and accent and too imperious and mysterious. I love Fionnula Flanagan, and I wonder if some of the awkwardness of the character came from her not knowing the most important fact about her: that she had killed Daniel, her own son. Actors on the show often don't know stuff like that until it's in their scripts. And maybe the weirdness and non-realism of her character was increased because the writers kept a tight reign on her so as not to reveal her true past.

Because Hawking's past introduces a MAJOR new puzzle piece. And I mean major. As in game-changer. She has had the most horrible life I could imagine: raising a child you KNOW you are destined to one day kill, even though you don't want to. Either she thinks that the past and future can not be changed, or she thinks that changing things would be worse than even shooting her own child. In either case, it sucks. But does she really think it's all fixed and "whatever happened, happened"? Why then was she pushing Des so hard to not change his mind about Penny? Why was she pushing Daniel so hard? If there is only one way for things to play out, then why work so hard making them go a certain way? Her behaviour instead seems to hint that it IS possible to change the way things play out, but that she is convinced it should NOT change. Even at the price of her son's life.

She told Desmond that he had to get to the island and push the button "to save the world". Maybe that was the truth? Maybe that is what she still thinks she is doing? Is she sacrificing her son to save the world?

The wider implication of The Variable is this:

Eloise Hawking knew from 1977 that she would kill her son. She will also see his journal, and probably take possession of it. She will read it and find out everything Daniel will work on in the future. She will know Desmond is his constant. I think both she and Widmore will be working from the 70s onwards to make things happen the way they happened. Whether they do so in collusion or separately. That is why Eloise raises Daniel the way she does, and that is why Widmore treats Desmond the way he does.

But it doesn't stop with Des and Daniel. Probably Eloise in 1977 will meet at least Jack and Kate, if not all the losties. She knows they have a part to play too. Will she manipulate their lives too? Will Widmore? Did Widmore and Hawking manipulate ALL the losties lives so that they would all end up on flight 815 and crash on the island? And how does Jack's reason for being on the flight - the death of his father - figure into that? Was that also a manipulation? And what role does "the island" play/ed?

I think what The Variable hints at is that there might have been a long-standing conspiracy to get not just Des and Daniel to end up on the island, but the other losties as well. It also hints that things CAN be changed because of the way Daniel managed to "send a message" to Desmond by talking to him in the past, telling him to contact his mother. Was that a new twist? It certainly seemed to be something Hawking had not counted on.

Hawking is now a majorly important character. I hope we get to see more of her. This more human and tragic version of Eloise is a lot more compelling than the mysterious oracle, and I hope to see more of her both in her on-island incarnation and in Fionnula Flanagan's off-island Hawking. Hawking's and Widmore's roles have suddenly jumped to the forefront. And so has Des. He might not have gotten a lot of screentime in The Variable, but he is still vitally important I bet.

Screencaps thanks to Lostpedia.

Desmond and Daniel

Thinking more about this week's ep, The Variable. It seems to me that the whole tie-in with Desmond in the hospital hints heavily at something very important. Hawking raised Daniel knowing what would happen to him. I'm betting she will have access to his journal on the island in the 70s, maybe she will even take possession of it. That means she will be able to read about all the things Daniel will find/found out. Like Desmond being his constant. Which means that, just like we have seen before on the show, she is bound to push Desmond into performing HIS role on the island just so that he can be Daniel's constant.

Is this why Widmore treated Desmond the way he did in regards to Penny and other things? I'm betting the answer is yes. Hawking and Widmore have been manipulating these two for a looooong time. Considering that Hawking will now probably meet up with at least Jack and Kate on the island, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that she (and Widmore?) will be attempting to manipulate their lives too. I can't wait to see how all this plays out!

Friday, May 01, 2009

What if...

Thinking about what will happen next on Lost. What if Jack and Kate, with the help of The Others, try to set off the bomb like Faraday wanted. But maybe instead of preventing the "incident", it causes another "incident"... say, like creating Jacob or at least putting whoever Jacob is into that predicament. Totally throwing someone "out of time", while also creating the fertility issues on the island.

Next week can NOT come fast enough!

Lost: The Variable. Whoa.


WOW. Widmore is Daniel's and Penny's dad. And Eloise Hawking raised her son, knowing every single day that she would be the one to kill him. That she in fact had already killed him. That's like Greek tragedy somehow, isn't it? No wonder the woman was so uptight. I guess she must be very convinced that the past/future can't be changed (or that whatever happened because Daniel died is so important that it HAS to happen again), because otherwise you figure she would have at least tried to change things. Is she right or was Daniel right when he said that things might change after all? Seems to me, so far everything is playing out the way it always has. But maybe things can be changed.

I've decided not to give a crap about the love-story stuff, because imo Juliet's life (or role on the show) has been in grave danger ever since she was hooked up with Sawyer. The makers of Lost have a sick fascination with keeping the love triangle/square alive, and I'm sure that by S6, somehow, Sawyer will be available to Kate again. And to Jack. WHATEVER! I wish they would just let that stuff die. But I don't think they won't. So they are totally building towards either Juliet dying, making it off the island or betraying Sawyer so horridly that he will be free and clear and ready to go for Freckles again. Blech! Just let them all end up with other people ffs! I will try to just enjoy the other aspects of the show, and not the ham-fisted soapiness of all that.

It's interesting to me that the hostiles have never seemed very aware of the time-travel possibilities of the island. When Daniel and the losties showed themselves to the Others in the 1950s, they seemed totally shocked to hear about people time-travelling. So did that kind of thing maybe never happen before the the losties started skipping in time? Alpert's agelessness must be due to some other properties of the island then, or to the fact that he is not really alive: maybe resurrected like Locke and Jack's dad?

Loving this show right now, even though I thought the sight of Faraday crying was kind of painful, and not in a good way! Good to see that scene with him all upset when he saw the fake plane crash on TV again: and the get to see Widmore own up to faking that crash! Yay! Still don't quite understand WHY Daniel was upset at the sight of that plane... but maybe the experiments he'd been doing had somehow affected his brain so that he could "sense" the past/future even if he couldn't totally remember what it was all about.

Only Miles left now of the freighter people who were introduced last season. Wonder how long he'll last? If Hurley is going to die, and there are suggestions to that effect out there, then maybe Miles will be his replacement as funny sidekick guy?

Finally: can we have an All-Alpert-All-The-Time episode soon. Because holy hotness in the jungle, the man is just wasted as a supporting actor. Please, please, please, bring us an Alpert-centric episode in S6! (Because I'm betting it's too late for one now.)

Screencaps thanks to lost-media.